February 26, MMXXI 45

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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Z6IIAB » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:16 pm

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what? how about neither? stop thinking women are born inferior because they don't have a dick. stop thinking you can't be a man AND be soft, respectful and caring at the same time. how bout that? it's not hard.
Men who are soft might find it especially difficult to be assertive and fight society on that point :D
then it's not being "soft", it's being a coward.
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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by lurker » Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:41 am

Z6IIAB wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:16 pm
lurker wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:17 am
Z6IIAB wrote:
Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:53 pm
what? how about neither? stop thinking women are born inferior because they don't have a dick. stop thinking you can't be a man AND be soft, respectful and caring at the same time. how bout that? it's not hard.
Men who are soft might find it especially difficult to be assertive and fight society on that point :D
then it's not being "soft", it's being a coward.
Well that's the point, right? Men who are not assertive are called cowards, which is why they have problems fitting in the little box of machismo society has created for men. On the other hand, society says it's all fine for women not to be assertive (and in fact encourages it; women who are assertive are called "bossy" and so on). That's why there are men who start believing it'd be simpler to just claim they are women, even though that makes no sense at all :roll:

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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Russly » Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:32 am

I-- wait, what...?

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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Z6IIAB » Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:18 am

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Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:41 am
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Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:16 pm
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Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:17 am

Men who are soft might find it especially difficult to be assertive and fight society on that point :D
then it's not being "soft", it's being a coward.
Well that's the point, right? Men who are not assertive are called cowards, which is why they have problems fitting in the little box of machismo society has created for men. On the other hand, society says it's all fine for women not to be assertive (and in fact encourages it; women who are assertive are called "bossy" and so on). That's why there are men who start believing it'd be simpler to just claim they are women, even though that makes no sense at all :roll:
I cleary said soft as in genuinely nice, gentle, pacific towards women especifically. Someone soft is not someone less assertive or who avoids fighting when needed.

Other than that, I agree with your next point, it doesn't make sense indeed. This is why we say transactivism is misogynistic, sexist and homophobic. It's patriarchy 2.0, the acceptable woke edition.
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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Russly » Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:08 pm

Celina, you'd be surprised, soft can be a relative term I suppose. You're right, we would divide the softness from lack of assertiveness, though no, they aren't mutually exclusive either. And it would seem to be precisely that overlap where we run into the grey area. Where might this get covered in the comic though? Tange be killin' it on the mic today. What is she, a temp It Girl? Hehehe, bring them to the next poetry slam, they'll have a blast.

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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Z6IIAB » Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:10 am

I explain what I meant. If you still choose to hear it as ambiguous, that's on you, man.
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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Z6IIAB » Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:10 am

But yeah, tange is playing only bangers
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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Russly » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:06 pm

Dw not too ambiguous to me, no. (Though not not ambiguous at all either...?)

What I don't quite get is, what's Tat's stance on #MeToo and #BlackLivesMatter? Is he... for the movement but not the use of social media to exploit it? What does that mean for the very ideas of Me Too and Black Lives Matter...?

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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by lurker » Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:29 am

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What I don't quite get is, what's Tat's stance on #MeToo and #BlackLivesMatter? Is he... for the movement but not the use of social media to exploit it? What does that mean for the very ideas of Me Too and Black Lives Matter...?
I don't think I've seen anything about #MeToo, but there's a couple of places that clearly refer to #BLM as being co-opted by the so-called "Woke" movement to claim moral superiority while silencing dissenting voices, like here:
https://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2021-03-14
It seems to me that the aware bears represent the various symbols that are claimed by the woke movement: "communism", "diversity", "blm" and "antifa" and used by the media to brainwash people:
https://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2021-03-12
Though probably this isn't meant to represent the true ideas behind those symbols, rather the fake version pushed on people, like "communist merch".
Looting is also clearly condemned, though I think only the most right-wing commenters blame looting on BLM...?

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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Russly » Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:50 am

Eh looting isn't even as big a deal since those whole failed tech heist attempts started when stores just began to remotely track whatever is taken. But take that from someone who explores abandoned houses before their demolition.

Chances are these people who are being blacklisted in strips such as today's are the kinds of characters who don't renounce the true ideas, yes. They're just calling out corruption of the ideas within the system, and subsequently being attacked by and today literally kicked out of said system.

It's kind of like if I said the true irony is that Sinfest isn't exempt from Rule 34 and it was enough of a trigger for an immediate ban. May have mentioned before, one tenant of mine accidentally wound up at a business party weekend with Ted Cruz, called it "paradise, except you're in Hell."

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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Z6IIAB » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:25 pm

lurker wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:29 am
Russly wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:06 pm
What I don't quite get is, what's Tat's stance on #MeToo and #BlackLivesMatter? Is he... for the movement but not the use of social media to exploit it? What does that mean for the very ideas of Me Too and Black Lives Matter...?
I don't think I've seen anything about #MeToo, but there's a couple of places that clearly refer to #BLM as being co-opted by the so-called "Woke" movement to claim moral superiority while silencing dissenting voices, like here:
https://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2021-03-14
It seems to me that the aware bears represent the various symbols that are claimed by the woke movement: "communism", "diversity", "blm" and "antifa" and used by the media to brainwash people:
https://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2021-03-12
Though probably this isn't meant to represent the true ideas behind those symbols, rather the fake version pushed on people, like "communist merch".
Looting is also clearly condemned, though I think only the most right-wing commenters blame looting on BLM...?
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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Z6IIAB » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:28 pm

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Eh looting isn't even as big a deal since those whole failed tech heist attempts started when stores just began to remotely track whatever is taken. But take that from someone who explores abandoned houses before their demolition.

Chances are these people who are being blacklisted in strips such as today's are the kinds of characters who don't renounce the true ideas, yes. They're just calling out corruption of the ideas within the system, and subsequently being attacked by and today literally kicked out of said system.

It's kind of like if I said the true irony is that Sinfest isn't exempt from Rule 34 and it was enough of a trigger for an immediate ban. May have mentioned before, one tenant of mine accidentally wound up at a business party weekend with Ted Cruz, called it "paradise, except you're in Hell."

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rule 34. that internet "rule" about "if it exists, there's porn of it". that's the rule you're talking about? cause i genuinely have no idea why you would bring that up lol what
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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Russly » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:45 pm

Mostly for the irony of it to be honest. I was basically saying if Tat was Ted Cruz he would immediately ban me for that kind of joke.

Atm I also wonder how often the characters are mutually exclusive? Like there are probably people out in the world who have a bit of both the new redneck guy and the Qanon guys in them. Hm....

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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Z6IIAB » Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:35 am

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Mostly for the irony of it to be honest. I was basically saying if Tat was Ted Cruz he would immediately ban me for that kind of joke.
what? what joke? what's ironic about that? you've lost me lol
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Atm I also wonder how often the characters are mutually exclusive? Like there are probably people out in the world who have a bit of both the new redneck guy and the Qanon guys in them. Hm....

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isn't new redneck guy = qanon guy? it's like saying someone is half german and half french. just say they're white lol istg i understand you less and less lolololol
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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Russly » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:35 am

Yeah it's a bit tough to explain the obviousness factor in "white guilt rays" from today's strip for example. Like that Woke TV would even allow that kind of absurdity maybe isn't even on Amber's radar. She's still there too though....

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