Let me start, RikkiTikkiTavi, by thanking you for your continued respectful candor. I mentioned it once in an older thread with my first account, but would like to reiterate the sentiment. I genuinely enjoy discussing issues with you. As an added bonus, your username and icon are a very beloved cornerstone of my childhood, which has nothing to do with anything but it constantly makes me smile.RikkiTikkiTavi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:56 pmThis thread has focused me on re-reading all the hot topic items in the forum. One I particularly find interesting is the "So, what should I expect?"http://www.sinfest.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9Tired Mama wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:31 pmCan I ask, honestly, in sincere good faith...
Where is the line in the sand? Because it seems my definition of harassment is wildly different from yours. Is the topic of transphobia forbidden? And if so... why is that not explicitly stated in the rules? I am legitimately just trying to exist in this forum and finding it a minefield and I say "i" and "me" because I can't speak for anyone else's experience but I don't mean to make this strictly about me personally.
What I'm trying to address is the forum as a whole and the manner in which it "greets" outsiders.
I have only thoroughly read up to page 2 so far, but it has reminded me already of the way these discussion tend to go. I skipped around that fire-storm and found some real coals still burning.
Tired Mama, I really want to know. What is your definition of transphobia? Who in your mind is an 'outsider' to this forum?
I am not trying to throw gas on a fire. I really want to know - but I also know that probably this is going to combust.
Because if you read the very last post of "So, what should I expect?" - I speculate that this thread is going to end up a whole lot like that thread. - Not saying because of you personally Tired Mama. I just think that any post that wants to talk about anything trans is going to stir up the crab bucket.
And I just want to know should I go ahead and get the popcorn popping...
To define transphobia, I could easily copy-paste from a dictionary or wikipedia or what have you... what I think would be more useful and edifying in this context would be to clarify what I define as transphobic behavior- specifically as I have witnessed it in the comic itself and the forums here.
Lets start with the rampant misgendering, which can certainly not be claimed at this point to be anything other than intentional. It may seem to many here to either be a: just a word, or b: calling out the truth, but at it's core it is- at best- a microaggression. Further it is highly offensive to many and, for some individuals, enough to push ones mental state into a dysphoric spiral.
Looking more towards the comic itself, can we really argue that the current depiction of trans individuals is anything other than insulting? And often downright vilifying. Violent, pill-pushing, cis-hating zombies that aggressively demand to be given all their wants on a platter... Look. I'm not going to sit here and say that there's no such thing as a transgender asshole. Of *course* there is. Pick any group of any identity, subset, cause, or even hobby, and you will find assholes. They're everywhere. But they aren't the face of the group as a whole and there is absolutely zero examples in the comic of anything other than the worst possible face of the trans community.
What can I call that if not transphobia? It paints such an ugly picture and sends a strong message re: where the comic stands on such people.
And yet, never is it explicitly stated in this forum or it's guidelines that trans folk need not apply. Never is it stated that discussing this issue is forbidden. So when the topic *is* brought up the fires roar and everything gets out of hand real fast. But nine times out of ten these are just people trying to bring to light something that maybe, just maybe, should be considered changing for the better?
Look, I know that there have been people who come to this forum guns blazing just to start a fight. But that doesn't mean everyone who ever has a critical thing to say is out to do that, right? I myself am legitimately here to both learn and, while I know it's a long shot at best, maybe just maybe change someone's mind a little bit. Not about the importance of feminism, not about the need to abolish the porn industry, I'm in agreement with the cornerstones here. But it seems to me that there's another piece of foundation that just doesn't get acknowledged. And it's something I think is worth trying to change.
I hope this made some degree of sense. I don't always succeed in getting my thoughts out clearly, but I try.